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parzanese standing outside of his RV. He gives off the impression that he's almost EXPECTING to get arrested.Sure enough, the LEOs roll in, jump out of their vehicles, spin him around, and push him up against the side of the RV.
"Wait! I can explain!", he yells, but his complaints fall on deaf ears.
Jeeves comes out of the RV, and is apprehended as well. The duck makes loud quacking noises and disappears in a ball of confusion and flying white feathers, too small and too fast to be caught.
"Umm, sir?" says Jeeves as he is pushed into a patrol car.
"You idiots! I've been working on this bust for weeks!" exclaims
parzanese."You're a cop? Right... And I'm the Queen of the May.", says the arresting officer, as he unceremoniously shoves
parzanese into the patrol car. Another officer can be seen wrapping the RV in yellow "crime scene" tape.Nearly an hour passes, and Jeeves returns, cuts the yellow tape, and climbs into the RV. The engine starts, and Jeeves drives off into the setting sun.
As the sky darkens, Danger Ranger appears. "Holy shit," he says, "Did they ever fuck that one up! Good work kids, we've almost got 'em all now."
SUMMARY:
parzanese the NARC has been mistakenly arrested. His cover is blown. Lynching discussion begins here. Don't forget the official vote tally is at http://cuddlepuddle.org/~adam/lj_games
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September 21 2005, 21:11:36 UTC 6 years ago
Do the NARCs not have any telephathy with each other at all?! I mean, they don't know who they are either?
September 21 2005, 21:14:18 UTC 6 years ago
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September 21 2005, 21:15:03 UTC 6 years ago
How did the NARCS gang up and arrest
Or can we interpret this as a "no-kill" by the NARCS, but a poising by the CHEMIST.
/me wanders off to re-re-read all of the character descriptions and special properties.
September 21 2005, 21:16:43 UTC 6 years ago
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the K9 and two NARCs are gone. Leaving one original NARC and the SNITCH who was probably turned last night.
right?
September 21 2005, 21:18:43 UTC 6 years ago
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September 21 2005, 21:43:08 UTC 6 years ago
One Narc got offed by sunset.
There was only two Narcs remaining at the beginning of the day.
Therefore:
It could've only been the super-potion of the Chemist that wound up getting
Therefore:
The Narcs didn't directly arrest anyone last day.
They found the Snitch OR they couldn't decide who to bust.
I think that them not compromising on someone to bust is bloody unlikely, although possibly due to the obvious Narc infighting going on. I think it's much more likely that one of us has turned Snitch.
Which means, two more Narcs to go.
September 21 2005, 22:18:44 UTC 6 years ago
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September 21 2005, 22:16:24 UTC 6 years ago
"right now it looks like a battle between the [info]airor and Paraneze camps. But frankly, in the 1 game I've played with each of them, they were extremely strong villagers (sorry, "ravers") and I'm not voting for either of them without some damn good evidence.
so i've picked someone at random. vote [info]perkyevil ."
so he may be trying to avoid voting for any NARC
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September 21 2005, 21:55:01 UTC 6 years ago
wait, i don't know if thats true...(wouldn't the chemist have seen that he was targeted by the NARCS and then not have poisoned him?)
the chemist could also have drugged parzanese and "saved" someone, which would only leave us with one NARC, if the chemist used both potions.
September 21 2005, 22:26:20 UTC 6 years ago
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September 21 2005, 22:11:17 UTC 6 years ago
Night 1
airor made 6 posts - NARC
amphitrite27 made 2 posts - I know I'm quiet, but RAVER
evilben made 4 posts - gone
flipperchaz made 2 posts - low, NARC, busy?
fu_urns made 6 posts - unknown
girlpurple made 3 posts - low, NARC, busy?
gpeefalt made 3 posts - low, but low when guilty as well
hungryandhollow made 5 posts - low, NARC?
ilovetequila made 10 posts - high, but does posting change when bad? a lot of chat not much on game
joelzero made 24 posts - see ilovetequila
kraydon made 17 posts - midrange, i didn't notice major change
parzanese made 36 posts - Naughty NARC
pergatorigirl made 3 posts - low, NARC?
perkyevil made 1 post - very low, NARC?
princeofwands made 20 posts - ?
the1mouse made 31 posts - K9
vrelis made 2 posts - low, busy, NARC?
Night 2
airor made 5 posts - NARC
amphitrite27 made 2 posts - Raver
flipperchaz made 2 posts - very low
girlpurple made 4 posts - low
gpeefalt made 1 post - low
hungryandhollow made 4 posts - low
ilovetequila made 13 posts - middle, but how useful?
joelzero made 10 posts - middle, somewhat on topic
kraydon made 4 posts - low
parzanese made 45 posts - high, NARC
perkyevil made 2 posts - low
princeofwands made 12 posts -
fu_urns 0 posts - suspicious
vrelis 0 posts - suspicious
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September 21 2005, 22:25:13 UTC 6 years ago
We have removed from play the following roles:
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The DOSE FAIRY (me) could not affect the outcome of that round.
The HIGH SCHOOL CHUMS (2) could not affect the outocme of that round.
The FRAT BOY could not affect the outcome of that round.
[Also, the FRAT BOY has not been entirely deactivated and for the rest of the game can be considered just another of the original RAVERS - as there are not remaining NINJA claims to wrongly see him.]
The RAVERS (all 5 still with us! We should call them 6 from now on.) could not affect the outcome of that round.
I imagine that since only one person was taken out that the DRAMA QUEEN was not activated, but somehow survived while taking out their target. Anybody else think this is possible? (NARCS pick DRAMA QUEEN, DRAMA QUEEN was pointed at
Leaving us with significant players "yesterday":
2 Original NARCS
CHEMIST
SNITCH
NARCS attack
Chemist is told that
- Chemist Defends - how did
- Chemist ignores -
- Chemist attacks - why would they do that? That makes No sense at all!!
NARCS attack !
- Chemist Defends - how was
- Chemist ignores - how did
- Chemist Attacks -
Yup - that seems the only sane interpretation; that the SNITCH was targeted by the NARCS and has been activated and then the CHEMIST had it out for and nuked
Other theories:
1) The NARCS pick up the DRAMA QUEEN. The DRAMA QUEEN fingers
2) The NARCS pick up
September 21 2005, 22:30:25 UTC 6 years ago
The FRAT BOY has been entirely deactivated.
Sorry for the type-o.
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September 21 2005, 22:36:11 UTC 6 years ago
requesting clarification from the gm
1) In this setting is a player being removed from the game via CHEMIST potion indistinguishable from a NARC pick-up?2) In this setting, is it possible for the DRAMA QUEEN to be activated (killed) take out their target, and then be saved - thus resulting only in the removal of the DRAMA QUEEN's target but not the DRAMA QUEEN?
September 21 2005, 22:49:00 UTC 6 years ago
Re: requesting clarification from the gm
2) As a moderator, I would rule the Drama Queen isn't dead in this case, and therefore gets no retalitory strike. I'm not sure what the rules are here.6 years ago
September 21 2005, 22:57:05 UTC 6 years ago
not drugged, just arrested
so, there is no snitch (the two NARCS taregted parzanese?), there was no "save"
September 21 2005, 23:05:04 UTC 6 years ago
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September 21 2005, 23:19:55 UTC 6 years ago
So then, what's the explaination that makes any sense? There's no MARTYR in this game. Have we mis-interpreted a sly and subtle role definition that permits some false report? Was there a second kill attempt the first day that the CHEMIST saved?
September 22 2005, 15:07:27 UTC 6 years ago
September 21 2005, 23:24:31 UTC 6 years ago
SO I believe we now know:
* The snitch did not turn (there would have been no arrests).
* The chemist did not dose anyone (there would be someone out due to being dosed!)
* The drama queen did not take anyone out (this only happens if the drama queen is herself actually taken out - if she's saved, no one goes out).
Therefore
* Parzanese was a narc the whole time.
* There is now one narc left in the game, and one snitch who could turn if the narc tries to arrest him.
* Parzanese was arrested by himself and his fellow snitch.
I believe Parzanese was counting on being saved by the witch. To give us airor and then be targetted (but saved) would make him appear awfully trustworthy. But the witch did not play into his plan.
September 21 2005, 23:27:36 UTC 6 years ago
September 21 2005, 23:25:39 UTC 6 years ago
No evidence from their deaths of candidate fellow NARCS or likely safe RAVERS. Damn. Even in death.
September 21 2005, 23:43:07 UTC 6 years ago
On the positive side, the narcs have damn near cleaned themselves out! If we do nothing at all, maybe the last narc will kill himself. ;-)
September 21 2005, 23:30:48 UTC 6 years ago
September 22 2005, 00:05:48 UTC 6 years ago
*whimper*
Are we sure the DOSE FAIRY didn't just hit the communal water supply? :-)Makes my head hurt... gonna go hang out in the shade structure and pet
Slow Down!
September 22 2005, 00:05:49 UTC 6 years ago
::walks off into the desert sunset::
September 22 2005, 00:12:10 UTC 6 years ago
Last night we saw no votes or abstains from three players:
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September 22 2005, 00:40:58 UTC 6 years ago
I imagine for the rest of the game that the lone NARC will be trying to find their SNITCH. Right now, they've got 1/11 to hunt for. If we fully reduce the number (outing all the specials) it falls to 1/6. And the DRAMA QUEEN can still be used against us anyway.
But by just blind random chance their 1/11 or 1/6 is still better than our collective 1/12 or 1/5 and the gap grows as our numbers dwindle.
So - we've got to find a way to (while not outing ourselves) hunt down the NARC from among the seven "plain" RAVERS, from the 11 people left that aren't me. Sadly, those of you that've made claims to be plain RAVERS are the targets for both sides now.
more later. and sadly, the Adam's rockin' game interface page has been down for a while now, so reading back up into the comments threads here is gonna be a pain.
September 22 2005, 02:19:03 UTC 6 years ago
All special characters, DO NOT OUT YOURSELVES... let me explain.
DRAMA QUEEN - if you out yourself you become a target for the NARC as they know you'll take someone down with you. Keep your drama bomb targeted at random villagers. If you think you've identified the CHUMs or the CHEMIST, go ahead and avoid them. If we have a highly likely second choice for lynching, you might choose them that night.
LOVERS - same above - if you out yourself you become a target for the NARC going for the two-for-one kill.
HIGH SCHOOL CHUMS - your anonymity protects the DRAMA QUEEN and the CHEMIST.
CHEMIST - You are the key to identifying the activated SNITCH.
Do not save anybody (including me, excluding yourself, you're no use to us dead). As long as you haven't saved anyone you get visibility into who the SNITCH is once activated. Very powerful. I'm not sure what to do yet once a SNITCH has been activated, not how to defend yourself should you be the target of a lynching. Any help here someone. MORE FROM ME ON THIS LATER IF I GET A CHANCE TO THINK WRITE OUT ALL THE REASONS.
EVERYBODY - the three players left in the game that are of special value to the last NARC are the SNITCH (who will increase the number of NARCS), the CHEMIST (who can both identify the SNITCH once activated and kill at will in the day), and the DRAMA QUEEN who will has that two-for-one kill value. The LOVERS also fit that bill, but not knowing how they overlap (if at all) the other roles, they can really be ignored here. The last NARC at this point is likely to be optimizing for detecting these roles.
That's it for my first pass. Think on it, comment on the holes I've left here or am blatently failing on.
September 22 2005, 04:48:03 UTC 6 years ago
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September 22 2005, 04:57:45 UTC 6 years ago
As for my defense of airor and paraneze, that was just logic. Two of our strongest players, with no concrete evidence against either - it didn't make any sense, although i know in retrospect it looks bad.
On the other hand, it won't bother me overmuch if you lynch me (or whatever we do here in BRC :P). I haven't had the time to get into this game like I have in the past, and it looks like we'll win soon anyway - i don't see how the NARCs could come back from such a blow. But there's always a chance, so please, don't lynch me. I give you my word i'm just a raver.
Oh, and since i'll probably die anyway, here's my shameful secret - i hate raves <3
September 22 2005, 14:34:26 UTC 6 years ago
princeofwands abstains
With no good evidence, a dogpile already onvote abstain
If my vote is looking like a tiebreaker / decision maker, please reply to this comment and the email notification with this subject will get my attention and I'll see what I can do. Otherwise, good luck RAVERS!
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September 22 2005, 15:57:59 UTC 6 years ago
I don't think that paranzanese would have put his fellow Narc in the "most suspicious" category.
September 22 2005, 16:45:53 UTC 6 years ago
it isn't that foolish to ostracize one villager, since we are so far ahead, but I think there is absolutely no proof of my guilt. And I think that there are far more suspcious characters than I.
Also, parzanese voted to arrest himself, why do you think he would have put the last remaining NARC in any category? he's obviously playing a more agggressive, chancy game than we gave him credit for.
September 22 2005, 17:08:27 UTC 6 years ago
Ooh, looky!! It's that bandwagon artcar again! SHINY!
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September 22 2005, 17:17:29 UTC 6 years ago
vote hungryandhollow
I like wandbagons.
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